Floor Burn Tournament: Finals

By Dominic on September 1st, 2008 at 11:26 am

Well it’s 118 to 7 for Maxiell now. Does Battier want to throw in the towel already?

By Pistonsrock on September 1st, 2008 at 11:47 am

Maxiell is winning, hands down!

By Rashad Mobley on September 1st, 2008 at 2:04 pm

The votes clearly reflect a Battier backlash….

By Matt on September 1st, 2008 at 3:09 pm

Go J-Max! Go Detroit!

By BCharters on September 1st, 2008 at 4:36 pm

Well in the picture with Battier it looks like he really enjoys looking up T-Mac shorts…..

By Brandon Hoffman on September 2nd, 2008 at 12:19 am

Where all the Rockets fans?

By Jared on September 2nd, 2008 at 8:48 am

Can I just vote for James Posey in a write in?

/late to this

By grungedave on September 2nd, 2008 at 9:43 am

Pistons fans need to get a life…

everyone knows Shane > Maxiell.

By Harris on September 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 am

In other news, Chauncey Billups is losing to Baron Davis at NBA Gauntlet. Ron Artest and Caron Butler are in a close match up.

By Babyeater on September 2nd, 2008 at 1:05 pm

If by “everyone knows” you mean “no one believes,” then yes “everyone knows” Shane Battier is better than Maxiell

By Ben on September 2nd, 2008 at 2:17 pm

Each player had a paragraph written about them in the beginning of this tournament and most of the paragraph authors were fan bloggers of the players team. It was expected in my mind that the bloggers supporting their player would promote the tournament and specifically their player in their blog. That is what has happened and I really don’t see how that can be unfair. Just like Maxiell, Battier has a blog on his side. So I really don’t see what the issue is here.

By Karl Malone on September 2nd, 2008 at 2:48 pm

Wait, grungedave is telling someone to get a life? Weird…

By Pistons Lover on September 2nd, 2008 at 4:02 pm

Jason Maxiell is da man…can’t no one on this mess with him!!! and all the haters out there, i can’t wait til he dunks on all of your favorite teams…and he will dunk on all 5 players out there!!!

By Floor Burn Finals... Vote for Shane!! on September 2nd, 2008 at 5:32 pm

Rox fans need to spread the word.

By Rocket on September 2nd, 2008 at 5:42 pm

Detroit fans don’t realize that their attempts at padding the votes is futile…once the Chinese fans get word of this, it will be Battier (500,000) to Max (2,500)…voting over!

By javier on September 2nd, 2008 at 6:14 pm

whats the point of having a poll if a huge single group is going to propel their guy to win it..it proves nothing and no real opinion other than the fact that Pistons forums spam people to vote

By Hayesfan on September 2nd, 2008 at 6:41 pm

GRUNGEDAVE!!! Don’t give in to them, I thought better of you.
Giving up so easily.

We have the power of millions of Chinese on our side. We just have to get them involved.

Battier is the poster boy for this contest. If he doesn’t win it’s because Pistons fans found a way to cheat.

Maybe we can tag something on to the end of that Peak commercial they keep playing over and over again on Chinese Television…

I bet Hoops Addict would love to get those hits!!

By Rocketfan on September 2nd, 2008 at 9:50 pm

Shane is a better all around defender in terms of hustle, drawing charges, being glued to the guy.

Shane will win eventually, he deserves it.

By Nick on September 2nd, 2008 at 10:08 pm

I didn’t realize you can get floor burns from dunks and blocks. I thought floor burns were from diving on the floor to make hustle plays. If this were truly a “Floor Burn Tournament” and not a popularity contest, Battier would have already won. Don’t get me wrong, Maxiell is great at what he does, but when it comes to chasing loose balls, making hustle plays, and being a team’s glue guy, Battier is the man.

By dandabackdoorman on September 2nd, 2008 at 10:36 pm

forget all yall haters battier is gonna win it hands down , and if u got a problem with it holla at me

By Clutch Boy on September 2nd, 2008 at 10:42 pm

“Never underestimate the heart of a champion” - Rudy T.

Battier is going to win this.

By stunna on September 2nd, 2008 at 11:13 pm

Battier is wayyyy better than Max….the only reason max his the lead (temporarily) is cuz he is on more highlight reel dunks on ESPN…so basically its a popularity contest. But F that, Battier is going to win this easilyy…no doubt…im goin to sleep ez tonight

By Eug on September 2nd, 2008 at 11:44 pm

Battier prob is the best candidate for this tournament…but Maxciell is just plain SICK.

By sachin on September 3rd, 2008 at 1:21 am

lets just talk one on one defense…

wow. jason maxiell is a joke. battier guards the best defenders in the game EVERY NIGHT. lebron, kobe, carmello, brandon roy, manu, pierce……should i go on?

who does jason maxiell guard? ben wallace? channing frye? loren woods? jake voskul? jake tsakalidas? vitali potepenko?

By Joe Dumars on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:33 am

Battier will win his 1st championship ring with rockets this year!!! Yao/scola/artest/tmac/alston/battier/barry/landry/francis and Deke!!!!

By Wil on September 3rd, 2008 at 4:41 am

Go! Shane Go!

Rockets for life baby.

By lol on September 3rd, 2008 at 5:27 am

yo matt u can tell their cheat if u look at the poll!!! its so clear!
And by the way i am a Piston fan since 94′

By AD on September 3rd, 2008 at 5:38 am

Dun nun nun BATMAN

POW

BOOM

Kapac

Batman

By Chinese on September 3rd, 2008 at 5:49 am

Shane Battier

By tracyoung on September 3rd, 2008 at 6:10 am

Great chinese fans will help battier ,who is Jason Maxiell ,the loser???

By Eyhab on September 3rd, 2008 at 7:08 am

Shane with the come from behind lead…

By Wow on September 3rd, 2008 at 7:50 am

Rockets have the most fans probably on the internet. Don’t ever try to play with them in a voting game lol.

This was not a competition from the start. Battier is clearly 10 times better than Maxiell.

By qyq187 on September 3rd, 2008 at 8:07 am

Who is Jason Maxiell ? I don’t know this guy.
Shane is the best!

By Hayesfan on September 3rd, 2008 at 8:50 am

Shane won an NCAA championship… so he has won a championship, believe me I remember it vividly because we, meaning UK, lost before we could get to them.

Max probably won one along the way somewhere, but I am quite certain he hasn’t won at the same level.

It’s going to be an interesting voting week!

May the best man, aka Shane, win.

By RedRocket on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:09 am

See what happens when you talk smack detroit? You DO. NOT. UNDERESTIMATE. THE. HEART. OF. A. CHAMPION. You talked all that smack and woke up a beast. And about the cheating, we’re the fourth largest city in America, you had to know this was coming.

By Steve on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:42 am

Battier is from detroit, how do u like our garbage?

By 313 on September 3rd, 2008 at 12:20 pm

I dont care about this stupid voting! everybody knows that Maxiell will eat Battier on the court and like steve said “enjoy another first round loss” Houston!!!

By BrooksBall on September 3rd, 2008 at 12:36 pm

Well it’s 1,841 to 1,214 for Battier now. Does Maxiell want to throw in the towel yet?

By Hayesfan on September 3rd, 2008 at 12:42 pm

LOL @ GrungeDave

I told you, you gave up too easily!

By NiceGuy on September 3rd, 2008 at 1:16 pm

Nice irrelevant arguments, Matt. It’s a FLOOR BURN Tournament, in case you hadn’t noticed. It’s about hustle and sacrificing your body, not about put back dunks and denials. Oh, and I’m pretty sure that getting out of the first round has nothing to do with it, especially when neither Battier nor Maxiell is a star of their team. Swap them and suddenly Battier is perennially in the conference finals and Maxiell is one and done. It really has nothing to do with them as individuals.

By BrooksBall on September 3rd, 2008 at 1:29 pm

Maxiell has only been in the league for 3 seasons and barely played the first two (especially year one where he averaged a mere 6 mpg). Battier has been doing his thing for 7 seasons while getting significant minutes from day one. It’s not that Maxiell isn’t a tough player, it’s just that he doesn’t have enough tenure to be in the finals with a veteran floor burner like Shane Battier.

What is the definition of “floor burn” anyway? Most of the arguments that tout Maxiell refer to dunks and blocks. If we are talking about dunking and blocking shots, neither of these guys would be in the final. You would see LeBron James vs. Marcus Camby in that case.

When it comes to taking charges, hitting the floor for loose balls and doing all the other dirty work, it’s hard to see how Maxiell’s name can even be mentioned in the same breath as Battier’s. I can see how Maxiell’s amazing blocks and thunderous dunks would make highlight reels. I just can’t see how they qualify him as a floor burner.

By Justin on September 3rd, 2008 at 2:07 pm

Come on now we all know “both teams played hard” errrr…..”both players play hard”. Battier will probably never will the MVP and neither will Maxiell. But every championship team needs a player in the mold of a Battier or Maxiell. Someone to pick up the garbage. Battier just flat out gets the job done while Maxiell has bad intentions everytime he has the ball. Personally I love the fire that Maxiell plays with. The intensity that he has when he grabs a rebound, only to obliterate the basket by slamming the ball through it, is just fun to watch. So in the end who would you rather see on your team…a consistent “floor burner”, or someone who consistently eats babies and takes names?

Vote Mad Max for floor burner president ‘08.

By steve davis on September 3rd, 2008 at 3:30 pm

you cant deny that maxiell is a good defender he put some good D on Dwight Howard in the playoffs and he blocks a lot of shots he’s 6′6 Battier dosen’t have nearly the defensive post presence but he is better at guarding the guards. He sure as hell never dunks like maxiell though

By Ericson on September 3rd, 2008 at 3:56 pm

There’s no cheating. You boys just witnessed the power of clutchfans.net.

By Bonior on September 3rd, 2008 at 4:50 pm

Maybe it really is cheating to call in the Chinese fans of the Rockets! lol

By Zack on September 3rd, 2008 at 6:36 pm

lol, Battier a better player then Maxiell?

Max is a beast, he’s one of the best shot blockers in the league, his offense is growing every day, and he is a much better player over-all.

Better offensively, better interior defender.. and over all a talented NBA player.

If Battier didn’t give 110% every game, he wouldn’t be in the league. He has no talent.

By 313 on September 3rd, 2008 at 8:36 pm

was it grungedave who said “Piston fans need to get a life” what a joke!

By Ikorose on September 3rd, 2008 at 9:31 pm

Looks like we got some sour Pistons fans over here. I would love to see your Pistons in the finals. We’ll bring Ron Artest back to the Palace. The next time he’ll be on the scorer’s table is with the Larry O’Brien trophy in hand.

By Bonior on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:18 pm

Battier is really cleaning up now: 2296 - 1498.

Maybe it’s truly cheating to call in the Rockets’ Chinese fans! lol

By Mikeal on September 3rd, 2008 at 10:51 pm

thanks ben for posting that information, i was just reading it myself, and i think that since you posted they’re gonna go edit it, hoopsaddict should really look into this matter, and take some type of action.

By BrooksBall on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:32 pm

Ben,

First of all, that proxy thing doesn’t actually work. It seemed like it did, initially, but it actually just hangs on the “Loading” page forever after you click ‘Vote’. I ended up having a bunch of browsers open that weren’t actually doing anything. If you don’t believe me, go ahead and try yourself. Those internet resources are available to Rockets and Pistons fans, alike.

Secondly, where does it say you can’t use a proxy? If you can vote from multiple computers in your house, which is essentially voting from multiple IP addresses, what would be the difference? Nobody would be breaking any rules.

And, again, it doesn’t work in the first place.

The truth is you, and Maxiell, are simply losing to the combination of Rockets/Battier supporters from ClutchFans and many others across the globe.

By the way, here is a quote taken directly from PistonsForum.com:

“Right, man. I have 2 PCs for internet and I voted from both…So everyone can vote practically unlimited times, only different IPs are needed.” -raxrets

Since nobody has unlimited computers, we all know what raxrets is implying with that statement.

Regardless, good luck to Pistons fans and their 3rd year player who barely saw any floor to burn his first two seasons.

By BrooksBall on September 3rd, 2008 at 11:41 pm

Ben,

If there is a way to cheat, as you think you have proven, why aren’t there thousands of more votes? Oh, I know… because you can’t. Go ahead and try.

If one person could vote endlessly from one computer, don’t you think the vote count for both finalists would be much higher after a few days? Obviously, you can’t and you are looking for excuses to use when Maxiell ultimately loses to the true Floor Burn champion.

By Glenn on September 4th, 2008 at 12:06 am

Don’t mess with the Chinese eh?

As far as heart of a champion… yeah the Rockets won in the previous millenium a couple times, but Battier was in high school, so that really doesn’t count.

And I’m sure you’d love to see us in the finals. Because that would mean that you finally won a playoff series. Hustle all you want Rockets, on the floor, down the tunnel, and right to your couches to watch the rest of the playoffs.

I will give you props for winning though. You had more fans turn out. I’m sure that the next time our teams play the announcers will be all over it, what a great moral victory it was, and how it’ll keep you warm at home during the second round…

By Ben on September 4th, 2008 at 1:22 am

You are right Brooksball, who are we to kid about Battier not deserving of Floor Burn Champion. He is Mr. Intangible good luck to yall and hopefull we can at least gain some chinese fans for our club.

By Bee on September 4th, 2008 at 4:27 am

Lol @ Pistons fans going from gloating to being huge cry babies.

By Battier's Brother on September 4th, 2008 at 5:11 am

Battier ,come on!!!

By Greatwallfan on September 4th, 2008 at 8:06 am

Maxxx, you had a long long excuse there buddy.

You say how did we have such a comeback? My question is how did you have such a huge lead.

Your a moron also if it didn’t occur to you because of your time zone in Detroit that you guys got to it before us. We were still sleeping when your votes started tallying up.

But when Tx woke up so did this poll.

GG

By Hayesfan on September 4th, 2008 at 9:01 am

Oh come on yall! Can’t we all just get along.

Let’s talk about how we both defeated our true nemesis in the Lakers and Boston and hope that we meet one another in the finals (my dream for June of 09! Rockets vs Pistons ftw!)

Battier made a huge comeback because until we posted it on all the Rockets forums no one knew the vote was now.

I am sure there are people who have voted multiple times for Max too.

The Pistons are my second fave team and in fact I have a friend who owns season tickets, so I can definitely appreciate Max. But, Shane is the definition of this tournament. Even all Rockets fans don’t appreciate him and what he brings to the game like they should.

Every single trade scenario over the summer before we traded for Artest included someone trying to give away Shane or my boy Chuck.

It’s also entirely possible that as the different blogs around picked up the finals voting that other basketball fans are voting for Battier as well.

Let’s not let this comment section turn into a flame fest eh? It’s been a lot of fun following this tournament.

By Shaunjon on September 4th, 2008 at 10:10 am

baller1 said:
at least detroit can get past the 1st round..

lets see the poor pisstons lose their best athlete and see if they even make it to the first round, better yet win what, ten or twelve games in a row after he goes out. detroits gettin older and doing nothing about it, rockets have 3 legitimiate superstars and plenty of young guys to build the team with. But anyways, 2009 will be a whole new season, new start, so lets watch the pistons digress into mediocrityand the rockets do the opposite.

By johntx281 on September 4th, 2008 at 11:04 am

wow remember when jason had the lead 118-7 and then the rockets fans found out about this website and started creeping up on him? that was fun.
lets go shane! i commend all the rockets fans. do work!i love the rockets

By RoxFan on September 4th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

I wonder if you piston fans really understand what your saying?
If you look at the polls for the other rounds , such as round 3, we have 4000 people voting in the Maxiel poll but only 2000 people voting in the battier poll. This poll has only 200 more votes, and you guys are claiming they are coming from CHINA? We can put that to this being the FINALS of the tourney
People in china really have time to learn english, navitage to this page and vote for a teammate of thier favourite player?
I voted in other rounds before, but not everyone has the time to wait for the poll to open up, i got my updates on this from thedreamshake (props!) and they posted on it when shane was down, and others say cluchfans had it too. Maybe thats why there was this come from behind?
Either way, battier should win this, cause he loves that floor, and this comp was made for shane!

By grungedave on September 4th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

Yeah, total thanks to ClutchFans. My appeal for the “sympathy vote” seems to have helped! Go Battier!

By Nick on September 4th, 2008 at 6:35 pm

I think it is funny how defensive Rocket fans are getting when us Piston fans make fun of you for not getting out of the first round. Maybe it is because you know you have a really good team, you are just stuck